There is some interesting text about the engraving on the B- and A-grades. Discontinued all these 'Batavia' models and replaced them with the Black Beauty and the Black Beauty Special. For specifics on Copyright Law and restrictions refer to: - doublegunshop.com will not monitor nor will they be held liable for copyright violations presented on the BBS which is an open and un-moderated public forum. I have 12 GAUGE PARKER DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN WITH HAMMERS. Site Functions. My research into the Baker is as faollows; A Grade 1892-1908 Three blade Damascus barrels, same engraving as B grade, better wood and finish B Grade 1892-1909 London twist, good line and scroll engraving with dog and bird on locks, better wood and finish than Leader model Paragon Grade 1894-1919 very fine Damascus or Krupp barrels, fine scroll and game scene engraving, best quality wood, checkering and finish, special order only Thank you for your information on the value and for taking the time to respond. It is then Dimple decides that she prefers Kush. The Batavia guns were the low priced or 'field grade' models of the Baker Gun & Forging Co. To reduce costs the Batavia line did not have the 'firing pin block safety' or the 'draw block' which passes transversely through the barrel lug and mates into recesses in the frame, of the graded Baker hammerless guns and the Model 1897 hammer gun. Number Bids: 1: Auction closed on Friday, June 14, 2013. 190,000) and they attracted a strong and devoted following. In 1888, after a large fire had destroyed the Syracuse factory, the Baker brothers moved their operations to Batavia, New York. Folsom Company had, for almost 20 years, been Baker Company's sole New York City agent and had marketed at least one Baker model that was only made for them. Write something about yourself. The barrels have retained 97-98% of their original blue finish with some mild silvering visible at the muzzles . 34535 Lickingteller Ave Warsaw, MO 65355 660-438-4697 Email: sales@macongunstocks.com NO OUT OF COUNTRY SALES. If you need more photos, shoot me an email and I can send you more. Serial number- 98081. The barrels retain 95% thinning original blue finish with a patch of light spotting and some minor handling marks. The most notorious example is probably the night he had to climb out the window of the hotel where he was staying to avoid arrest! Do a search for Baker Batavia Leader and you'll find quite a range of prices. $300 circa 1910 BAKER BATAVIA LEADER double-barrel shotgun $300 FTF in . LSB#: 180131MG89 Make: Baker Gun Co., Made by H&D Folsom Model: Batavia Special Serial Number: 151325 Year of Manufacture: 1919-1930 (Folsom purchased Baker Gun & Forging in 1919 when "Baker Gun Co." began to be marked on the guns and the Baker Gun Co. was closed in 1930) Gauge: 12 Gauge, 2 1/2" Shells Action Type: Top Lever Opening Sidelock Double Barreled Shotgun When Folsom acquired Baker Gun the barrels were made Belgium however it is this piece of Baker Gun history I could have backwards, I need to check my reference material to be sure. They state that the normal engraving is scroll, dogs, and game; but could be all scroll, scroll and dogs or scroll and game. The wood is also excellent with some minor handling marks and a couple shallow gouges. Info on Bakers is scarce. The action retains 97% original case colors. After L.C. prior written consent of the Copyright holder. Even the trigger-plate hammer gun built first in Syracuse and then later in Batavia was designed by A.C. McFarland, Patent No. Production remained at the Batavia, New York facility until 1919, when its gun manufacturing portion was sold. I had an old Marshwood double barrel handed down to me from my dad that looked just like it, and it shot just fine. Late model Bakers were made by Crescent Firearms Company and have serial numbers with an "F" suffix. A NEW BAKER MODEl shotgun (an outside hammer type) was made by the Baker Gun And Forging Company of Syracuse New York (1887 to 1919) The BAKER NEW MODEL was made from 1887 to 1894 (I have serial number-year made tables for this gun). . The Baker/Batavia guns put out by H & D Folsom Arms Co. 1919 to 1929 were assembled at their factory in Norwich, Conn., aka Crescent Fire Arms Co. It is a Side by Side Top Break action. These guns sold in substantial quantities (approx. Turned out to be a "New Baker" made by Syracuse Forging & Gun Co, SN 2473. 411509 was made in 1925. More well documented is the lawsuit by Stevens against Baker Gun for patent infringement. It is a 12 gauge chambered for 2 5/8" shells. In 1919 Baker sold out their gun business to H&D Folsom. The serial number is 100xxF. $ 449.00. 3, May 1900 - At this date they only appeared to offer 5 guns - Model 1897 hammer gun with twist barrels $25 net, Model 1897 Hammer gun with Damascus barrels $27.80 net, the B-Grade with 'London Damascus twist' barrels for $35 net, the A-Grade with Fine Four-Blade Damascus barrels $42.75 net, and the Paragon Grade with fine four-blade Damascus barrels with extra fine figure $60 net. The Batavia guns were the low priced or field grade models of the Baker Gun Forging Co. To reduce costs the Batavia line did not have the firing pin block safety or the draw block which passes transversely through the barrel lug and mates into recesses in the frame, of the graded Baker hammerless guns and the Model 1897 hammer gun. The sidelock 'Black Beauty' replaced the Batavia Special, Leader, and Damascus guns about 1916. What Baker guns does that serial number list apply to Baker was making his trigger-break hammer double and three-barrel guns in Lisle, New York, in 1876 and then Syracuse, New York, by 1877, as W.H. About 1915 Baker Gun & Forging Co. I have found them to be nice handling shooters. Required fields are marked *. It was The Best Shotguns Ever Made in America, published in 1981, and it told the story of the legendary American side-by-sides: Parker, A.H. Fox, Ithaca, L.C. The Blue Book of Gun Values strongly recommends an expert examination and appraisal when contemplating the purchase of a high grade Baker in 80% or better original condition. Folsom-made Baker guns normally have an F before or after the serial number. All rights reserved. It is a bit aged. May 1900 -- At this date they only appeared to offer 5 guns -- Model 1897 hammer gun with twist barrels 25 net, Model 1897 Hammer gun with Damascus barrels 27.80 net, the B-Grade with London Damascus twist barrels for 35 net, the A-Grade with Fine Four-Blade Damascus barrels 42.75 net, and the Paragon Grade with fine four-blade Damascus barrels with extra fine figure 60 net. So if the serial number starts with a (3) it is a model 1900. WorthPoint is the largest resource online for identifying, researching and valuing antiques. Fairly plain wood with checkering mostly worn smooth, but appears to have been originally a nice pattern, nothing real fancy. $29.95. I also originally thought this is an A grade, but wonder if it could be a Parigon. Apr 17, 2013. Baker was ill with TB and they brought in Frank A. Hollenbeck as plant superintendent. Updated every minute of everyday! with 26" nickel steel barrel (cut down from 32") and poly choke. You may receive a 'B' with a different design of border or a duck or a dog in place of the two quail, or a dog pointing game, we cannot tell as it is our aim to give a variety of designs.'. 1896/1930 Models. About 1915 Baker Gun & Forging Co. discontinued all these Batavia models and replaced them with the Black Beauty and the Black Beauty Special. A: Made in: 10ga with 30 or 32 inch barrels 12ga - 28, 30 or 32 inch barrels 16ga - with 28 or 30 inch barrels Serial numbers range from 1-7000 for this grade(A and B mixed) which puts your gun within the last 100 A's and B's made. Pat - Your collection of Baker trap guns sounds interesting. An A will have Damascus and a B will have Twist. They state that they introduced the Paragon about two years ago, but have been so busy with the lower priced guns that they havent devoted the time and energy they should have in bringing it to the notice of the shooting public. This lot is closed for bidding. Baker Batavia Leader Serial Numbers; L C Smith Shotguns Serial Numbers; . . I was looking at a Baker Batavia Leader today that had a nominal asking price. Serial #: 100299. Feb 18, 2012 Folsom added the 20-gauge to the Baker line that they produced. . USA These materials are provided by doublegunshop.com as a service to its customers and may be used for informational purposes only. Your gun was probably made around 1908. The name of the company was changed toBaker Gun & Forging Co. under the leadership of Frank Hollenbeck. It does have the receiver and lock work of the Riverside Arms 315 which was a Stevens name, I think Stevens bought them in the mid 1910s. The guns were developed in the 1960s by Robert Mainhardt and Art Biehl through their joint company MB Associates. Although no real collector interest in Baker Guns exists the guns made before the Folsom acquisition seem to be preferred. We do not guarantee that every 'B' grade gun will be engraved from just the same design but endeavor to have about the same amount of engraving on each. Baker died in 1888 not too long after starting this company?). I havent heard from him in years and havent seen the book anywhere so I guess that it has not been published. . Bidding. The F is after the numbers. My reference The Breech Loading Shotgun In America, 1860 to 1940 list three makers named Baker, two American and one English. Not high condition but shootable with appropriate loads. After four years, Baker decided to withdraw from the partnership and went back to Syracuse to work with his brother, Ellis. As far as I know, there is nothing like a Baker Collector's Club, but several years ago I met some folks through the L.C. 30 or 32 inch barrels 16ga - with 28 or 30 inch barrels Serial numbers range from 1-7000 for this grade(A and B mixed) which puts your gun within the last 100 A's and B's made. A Prime condition example (rare as as,these guns were used hard and received little care or maintenance) that appears to have come out of the factory yesterday afternoon might bring as much as $125 while a rusty and pitted metal, rotten or broken wood and missing parts piece of junk fit only for salvage of parts or as a whiskey still stirring stick might bring as little as $10 if it could be sold at all. Many shooters are not aware Baker Gun was one of the 'Big Six' of classic American Doubles. Tell us what else you do know and the Firearms Appraiser will be able to better assist you. We work hard to bring the best Firearms Forum has to offer! Checkered pistol grip stock with grip cap and serrated H&R Arm Co. plastic buttplate. Serial number E1754 (mfg. The Batavia Special was never made with Damascus barrels, the leader barrels should be stamped on top near the chambers in very small letters 'Homotensile steel', the other barrel will be stamped 'choke bored'. Description: Serial #9101F, 12 ga. (2 3/4"), 30" barrels choked Mod. Folsom era Bakers usually have an F before or after the serial numbers 1- about 14,000 so again, I believe this one is before that.H & D Folsom Arms Co. 23, 25, and 31 (1929-1930) only list the Batavia Leader and Black Beauty Special. In the 6000 range A's and B's should be marked . This was made between 1909 and 1919, I believe, made in Batavia, New York. Crescent Fire Arms Company did not start making Baker shotguns until 1920. Best Regards, Tom. The fore end has some poor repairs (the screws in the bottom) and would need to replaced in order for a collector to want it but then you defeat the purpose because now it would have replaced wood. These Leaders were well finished, compared to the Folsom offerings. Shotguns produced at the Batavia facility are engraved with "BAKER GUN CO," on the right side of the receiver below the breech. If you haven't already found the site, you might check out The site includes a little history that helps explain why some people associate Baker with one city and other folks place him in another city. Folsom markings: "BATAVIA LEADER" on the left side; "BAKER GUN CO." on the right. Baker "normally" had their different gun models in blocks of serial numbers for each gun model, but during this period they had many models in the same block of serial numbers, from roughly the high 30,000 range through 51,000 or so. In the very last Baker ads that I've found in old sporting magazines from April and May 1928, and October 1929, Folsom also offered a 410-bore Batavia Leader, though I've never seen one. It was this firm that produced the now famous Batavia Leader shotguns. Create your own unique website with customizable templates. Standard 12 ga bores are.729 inch (cylinder bore), a full choke is.694, modified.710 and Improved Cylinder.720 inches. The Wood was in splinters, the receiver was pitted & had parts missing, and the Damascus (Best London Twist) barrels showed significant corrosion. The demand of new BAKER shotgun's has risen 1 units over the past 12 months. $300 FTF in Illinois with valid FOID. For sale is a Baker Batavia Leader SXS Shotgun in 12ga. A 'Trade Brand Name' shot is one that was made by a major maker for and was sold by a wholesale sporting goods dealer, a retail chain store or an independent seller (your local hardware store) who chose the name to go on the gun. This has a chip to the lower portion of the buttplate and the wood (toe?) A serial number if there is one will be stamped on the bottom of the barrels or the flat part of the receiver which is known as the watertable. Baker did offer a 'Batavia Leader' however. Firearm Factory Of The Month:Baker Gun & Forging Co. William Baker was born on Christmas day of 1835 in upstate New York. (Make it real, take out the spaces/dots). Book value is a bit more than the asking price.You need to list the condition of the bores, very important on this gun where condition is everything, and if I were you I'd try listing it on Doublegunshop.com Gunboards is tops for the regular run of C&Rs but for shotguns there are more folks interested in the older shotguns on that specialty. Also if you take it hunting and shoot at reasonble ranges, say 30 to 35 yards you'll find the game comes down just the same even without high velocity 1 1/4 loads. Checkered pistol grip stock with grip cap and serrated H&R Arm Co. plastic buttplate. Previous trademark used by W.H. During the period of 1915-1919, Baker Gun and Forging Co. was doing a lot of work on forged auto parts and much less work on guns. The only way to tell is to look at the barrels. 3. Baker Gun & Forging Co. was an American firearms manufacturer established in 1863 by William Baker and Lewis Smith. Date of manufacture is from 1919 to 1923. I might guess your Leader would have a cocking mechanism different than most Bakers. He partnered with Lewis Smith and began building his guns in Marathon, New York. Marlin reintroduced the L.C. It should NOT be considered safe to shoot with modern ammo until it has been checked by a WELL-QUALIFIED gunsmith for barrel type and condition and chamber length. There is some interesting text about the engraving on the B- and A-grades. Your stock has some gouge marks near the end of the side plates which leads me to believe there is hairline crack in the stock, but maybe not. Baker. Contents - Index:. Smith, Lefever, and the Winchester 21. The side plates are marked "BATAVIA LEADER". All 'Baker Grade' guns were available with the extra draw lug and firing pin block safeties. Doublegunshop.com assumes no responsibility for errors or omissions in these materials. Create your own unique website with customizable templates. Smith and Ithaca Gun before coming out with a shotgun with his own name on it. I have a Baker Gun Co Batavia Leader 12 gauge Serial Num 147 F which appears to be in very good condition and I want to know how to get an appraisal. From a 1909 copy of The Baker Gunner - The Batavia Leader had twist barrels and listed at $25 - The Batavia Special had steel barrels and listed at $21.75 - The Batavia Damascus had Damascus barrels and listed at $28 - and, finally the Batavia Brush had 26-inch twist barrels and a straight-grip stock listing at $24 and offered swivels and a sling as an option for $3. The side plates are marked "BATAVIA LEADER". What strikes me still is the stock, the Riverside was a price point gun. From a 1909 copy of The Baker Gunner -- The Batavia Leader had twist barrels and listed at 25 -- The Batavia Special had steel barrels and listed at 21.75 -- The Batavia Damascus had Damascus barrels and listed at 28 -- and, finally the Batavia Brush had 26-inch twist barrels and a straight-grip stock listing at 24 and offered swivels and a sling as an option for 3. The Batavia guns were the low priced or "field grade" models of the Baker Gun & Forging Co. . Chambers would have definitely been 2 5/8' Remember the early nitro powders 'white' did not create the higher pressures of todays duplex powders. Make a single barrel trap shotgun.2. I confirmed pre 1919 Batavia Specials (no F in Serno) had barrels made in Belgium. 2-piper, the New Baker you saw, if it was marked Syracuse Forging and Gun Company, Syracuse , was made before the factory fire in 1889. Barrel length: 30". There was also a Batavia Ejector that listed at 35 with steel barrels and 37.50 with Damascus barrels. Buy Baker Gun Company Batavia Leader 12ga SxS Shotgun 30" Full Mod "F" Suffix: GunBroker is the largest seller of Side By Side Shotguns Shotguns Guns & Firearms All: 973365256 Baker Gun & Forging Company was the first American arms manufacturer to: 1. If you would like to or nhl sabres. Date of manufacture? ca. Grades for these Folsom owned Baker Guns were the 'Batavia Leader,' 'Black Beauty Special,' 'Paragon,' 'Expert,' and 'DeLuxe.' About 150,000 Baker guns were produced prior to the Folsom ownership.So based on the above, I believe this is a 1909 - 1919 gun.This gun has plenty of wear, and a light patina, and a few little rust spots in the one photo near the forearm. This gun in the pics is the BATAVIA LEADER as you can see.The Batavia line did not have the 'firing pin block safety' or the 'draw block' which passes through the barrel lug and into the frame.The sidelock 'Black Beauty' replaced the Batavia Special, Leader, and Damascus guns about 1916.The Batavia Leader number series were from 75,000 to about 106,000. View more in our Baker Guns Price Guide. Make a double barrel shotgun, with hammers directly behind the firing pins. SOLD - $735.00. Here's what I could find out:The Baker Gun & Forging Co. Had a line of double barrel shotguns, sidelocks, called Batavia guns in 1903. In the 6000 range A's and B's should be marked 'A' or 'B' in the serial number but 'should be' is not always true. I'm tempted to spray wd40 on it to clean up the metal, but i thought I'd ask here first. Baker shotguns manufactured between 1913 and 1923, that were engraved by Rudolph J. Kornbrath, command substantial price premiums over values listed. At the time of his birth, all of New England's population wasn't as significant as the population of New York City is today. Excellent. This is a BAKER BATAVIA LEADER double-barrel shotgun. It was the Folsom made Bakers that had the Crescent Arms Barrels. Folsom listed the Black Beauty Special for $62 -$77 with ejectors, the Paragon $100 -$115, the Expert for $215, and the DeLuxe for $385. There is also someone out there selling reproductions of a Batavia Gun metal advertising sign as well as the 1915 catalog. William, unfortunately, was suffering from tuberculosis. Even the trigger-plate hammer gun built first in Syracuse and then later in Batavia was designed by A.C. Oct. 4, 1887. Baker Gun Co. Was closed in 1930 and the factory started making car parts. The wood on this is probably worth more than the rest of the gun. During the period of 1915-1919, Baker Gun and Forging Co. was doing a lot of work on forged auto parts and much less work on guns. Folsom era Bakers usually have an F before or after the serial numbers 1- about 14,000 so again, I believe this one is before that. There, his two sons joined him in learning the firearms industry. $100 -$115, the Expert for $215, and the DeLuxe for $385. The Batavia Leader number series were from 75,000 to about 106,000. . Thank you for responding. restrictions refer to: http://www.copyright.gov/laws/ - doublegunshop.com will not monitor nor will they be held liable for copyright violations presented on the BBS which is an open and un-moderated public forum. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. No markings on barrels After the move of the company to Batavia in 1890 a few guns were marked Syracuse Forging and Gun Co., Batavia. Folsom-made Baker guns normally have an F before or after the serial number. Folsom added the 20-gauge to the Baker line that they produced. If you have an inside micrometer they're easy to measure but all dimensions may vary from 'standard'. Click here for more information. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. On the 1900 sometimes there is a Q ahead of the serial number, the Q signifies the model 1900. They state that they do not have any Paragon Grade guns in stock and all are made to order requiring 4 to 8 weeks. Crescent Fire Arms Company did not start making Baker shotguns until 1920. Like the L.C. Almost 6 years ago. Baker Double Barrel Shotguns .. Personally I tend to think of them as the poor mans L.C. From a 1909 copy of The Baker Gunner - The Batavia Leader had twist barrels and listed at $25 - The Batavia Special had steel barrels and listed at $21.75 - The Batavia Damascus had Damascus barrels and listed at $28 - and, finally the Batavia Brush had 26-inch twist barrels and a straight-grip stock listing at $24 and offered swivels and a sling as an option for $3. Smith, Parker, LeFever, Fox and Ithaca, collector interest in these high quality sidelock shotguns is increasing. However, the 'Batavia Grade' guns did not have these features. The demand of used BAKER shotgun's has not . Nov 18, 2013 - T. Barker double barrel exposed hammer shotgun, 12gauge, 30 " barrels, 47" overall, serial number 6691. The company name was soon changed to Baker Gun and Forging Co. http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/17434920, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. By 1932 they had no more Baker Guns. Baker Gun Company Batavia Leader Shell Ejector 12g Double Barrel Shotgun Part. Folsom era Bakers usually have an F before or after the serial numbers 1- about 14,000 so again, I believe this one is before that. 1903 Model Incl Contract Prod. In the fall of 1928, Folsom Baker magazine ads listed a 410 bore Batavia Leader, but it is unclear if any were actually manufactured. Drew In my reference book, "The Breech Loading Shotgun In America 1865 To 1940" written by Joseph T. Vorisek under the section on Baker Gun And Forging Company, Serial Number Ranges For Baker Shotguns, page 104, it list the Batavia Special production starting in 1908 with serial number 150,000 and continuing until 1915 and ending with serial number 153,200. Baker Gun - England Batavia Leader SXS 12 GA, 30" fixed choke FULL/IMPMOD bbls, 2 1/2" chambers, bright .. A serial number if there is one will be stamped on the bottom of the barrels or the flat part of the receiver which is known as the watertable. Syracuse Forging and Gun Co., Syracuse, NY 1887-1889 New Baker with Underbolt 30 Syracuse Forging and Gun Co., Batavia, NY 1889-1890 New Baker with Underbolt 30 Baker Gun Forging Co.The Firearms Forum is on online community for all gun enthusiasts.Join us to discuss firearms of all kinds, gun accessories, legal issues and more. Doublegunshop.com makes no commitment to update the information contained herein. Sandboxie full keygen patch, sandboxie terbaru free.best working torrent tracker list for download sandboxie bit cracked x64.sandboxie 3.76 x64 crack.install and run programs in a virtual sandbox environment without writing to the hard drive.both new existing vms cannot be started with virtualbox 4 32. The company was then renamedL.C. After WW-I with the rise of repeaters Baker sold their gun business to H&D Folsom Co. A major marketer, manufacturer and importer of low priced guns. Im looking for any info I could get on a Baker Damascus Double Barrel w Serial 8XX. $300 FTF in Illinois with valid FOID. From Blue Book Publications. (twist barrels I believe) Unable to find year. Well, best of luck and thanks again for posting. The Batavia Leader shotguns were made by the Baker Gun co of Batavia, NY from around 1903 to 1933. Smith Collectors Association who knew a great deal about Baker guns. Folsom era Bakers usually have an F before or after the serial numbers 1- about 14,000 so again, I . Unfortunately I think cowboy action shooting is going to cause a lot of otherwise nice Bakers to get chopped. Potential value range? Baker Batavia LeaderComplete Restoration. If you upload close ups on the barrel pattern I can identify that for you. In 1880, W.H. We are unsure of the chamber size or choke as they are not marked but we took close up of all stamps. Palayathu amman tamil. At the age of 24, Baker decided to go into the gunsmithing business himself. Fast & Free shipping on many items! We are unsure of the chamber size or choke as they are not marked but we took close up of all stamps. I have added more pic to show the checkering and grain of the stock and the fine damascus consistent with the Paragon. There was also a Batavia Ejector that listed at $35 with steel barrels and $37.50 with Damascus barrels. Each of their ads uses the company name and a representation of the firearm it is promoting. With the letter F in the serial number, your Batavia Leader was made after Baker Gun & Forging Co. sold out the gun part of their business to H & D Folsom Arms Co. of New York City in 1919. Ps2 Obscure 2-II Pal Multi5 (ITA-ESP-ENG-DEU-FRA)By Kiryu.iso, 2, 1, Dec. 8th '08, 1.9 GB2, ufrontiera. After WW-I with the rise of repeaters Baker sold their gun business to H&D Folsom Co. A major marketer, manufacturer and importer of low priced guns. In the very last Baker ads that I've found in old sporting magazines from April and May 1928, and October 1929, Folsom also offered a 410-bore Batavia Leader, though I've . Doublegunshop.com shall not be liable for any special, indirect, incidental, or consequential damages, including without limitation, lost revenues or lost profits, which may result from the use of these materials. Baker Batavia Leader S Serial Number Posted. In the very last Baker ads that Ive found in old sporting magazines from April and May 1928, and October 1929, Folsom also . Face to face in Illinois would be best. JavaScript is disabled. When this gun came out fluid steep barrels were a 'new fangled contraption' and damascus was preferred for it's good looks. site.Standard 12 ga bores are.729 inch (cylinder bore), a full choke is.694, modified.710 and Improved Cylinder.720 inches. Doublegunshop.com may make changes to these materials, or to the products described therein, at any time without notice. Baker Gun & Forging Co. added a lower priced line of sidelocks called Batavia guns in 1903. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! . Unlock additional features, and fewer ads while browsing. At end of gun stock is a logo B superimposed with a C and then superimposed with a T.-I assume it means Baker Co. Barrel is 32 in. What condition is the barrel in A few years ago, circa 1995, there was a young guy who was trying to write a history of the company and its guns. Smith shotgun in 1967 made them until 1971. If you have an inside micrometer they're easy to measure but all dimensions may vary from 'standard'. RIAC believes that this website is accessible to the widest possible audience pursuant to the guidelines of the Americans with Disability Act. Expert's Assistant: The Firearms Appraiser will get you a firearm appraisal. A: Made in: 10ga with 30 or 32 inch barrels 12ga - 28, 30 or 32 inch barrels 16ga - with 28 or 30 inch barrels Serial numbers range from 1-7000 for this grade(A and B mixed) which puts your gun within the last 100 A's and B's made. Baker shotguns have in recent years become highly collectible. Your email address will not be published. You have what I call a 'Trade Brand Name' shotgun but that is not technically true. This is a handsome gun that has the pre-H.D. They had, in 1909, 'The Baker Gunner,' the 'Batavia Leader' with twist barrels at $25, the 'Batavia Special' with steel barrels at $21.75, the 'Batavia Damascus' at $28, the 'Batavia Brush' at $24, the 'Batavia Ejector' at $35. Book value is a bit more than the asking price.You need to list the condition of the bores, very important on this gun where condition is everything, and if I were you I'd try listing it on Doublegunshop.com Gunboards is tops for the regular run of C&Rs but for shotguns there are more folks interested in the older shotguns on that specialty. In the very last Baker ads that I've found in old sporting magazines from April and May 1928, and October 1929, Folsom also offered a 410-bore Batavia Leader, though I've never seen one. Five Double Barrel Shotguns -A) Baker Gun Co. Batavia Leader ShotgunChamber measured 2 3/4" with extractor, chokes measured improved modified/full, and 15" LOP. Baker Gun Co Batavia Leader. From 1919 to approximately 1923, Folsom continued to assemble and make Baker shotguns. The Baker/Batavia guns put out by H & D Folsom Arms Co. 1919 to 1929 were assembled at their factory in Norwich, Conn., aka Crescent Fire Arms Co. 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